Forcing a countable structure to belong to the ground model

Itay Kaplan, Saharon Shelah

Published 2014-10-05Version 1

Suppose that $P$ is a forcing notion, $L$ is a language (in $V$), $\dot{\tau}$ a $P$-name such that $P\Vdash$ "$\dot{\tau}$ is a countable $L$-structure". In the product $P\times P$, there are names $\dot{\tau_{1}},\dot{\tau_{2}}$ such that for any generic filter $G=G_{1}\times G_{2}$ over $P\times P$, $\dot{\tau}_{1}[G]=\dot{\tau}[G_{1}]$ and $\dot{\tau}_{2}[G]=\dot{\tau}[G_{2}]$. Zapletal asked whether or not $P \times P \Vdash \dot{\tau}_{1}\cong\dot{\tau}_{2}$ implies that there is some $M\in V$ such that $P \Vdash \dot{\tau}\cong\check{M}$. We answer this negatively and discuss related issues.