{ "id": "2401.01979", "version": "v1", "published": "2024-01-03T20:58:48.000Z", "updated": "2024-01-03T20:58:48.000Z", "title": "Low level definability above large cardinals", "authors": [ "Farmer Schlutzenberg" ], "comment": "22 pages", "categories": [ "math.LO" ], "abstract": "We study some connections between definability in generalized descriptive set theory and large cardinals, particularly measurable cardinals and limits thereof, working in ZFC. We show that if $\\kappa$ is a limit of measurable cardinals then there is no $\\Sigma_1(H_\\kappa\\cup\\mathrm{OR})$ wellorder of a subset of $P(\\kappa)$ of length $\\geq\\kappa^+$; this answers a question of L\\\"ucke and M\\\"uller. However, in $M_1$, the minimal proper class mouse with a Woodin cardinal, for every uncountable cardinal $\\kappa$ which is not a limit of measurables, there is a $\\Sigma_1(H_\\kappa\\cup\\{\\kappa\\})$ good wellorder of $H_{\\kappa^+}$. If $\\kappa$ is a limit of measurables then there is no $\\Sigma_1(H_\\kappa\\cup\\mathrm{OR})$ mad family $F\\subseteq P(\\kappa)$ of cardinality $>\\kappa$, and if also $\\mathrm{cof}(\\kappa)>\\omega$ then there is no $\\Sigma_1(H_\\kappa\\cup\\mathrm{OR})$ almost disjoint family $F\\subseteq P(\\kappa)$ of cardinality $>\\kappa$. However, relative to the consistency of large cardinals, $\\Pi_1(\\{\\kappa\\})$ mad families and maximal independent families $F\\subseteq P(\\kappa)$ can exist, when $\\kappa$ is a limit of measurables, and even more. We also examine some of the features of $L[U]$, and answer another question of L\\\"ucke and M\\\"uller, showing that if $\\kappa$ is a weakly compact cardinal such that every $\\Sigma_1(H_\\kappa\\cup\\{\\kappa\\})$ subset of $P(\\kappa)$ of cardinality $>\\kappa$ has a subset which is the range of a perfect function, then there is an inner model satisfying \"there is a weakly compact limit of measurable cardinals\".", "revisions": [ { "version": "v1", "updated": "2024-01-03T20:58:48.000Z" } ], "analyses": { "subjects": [ "03E55", "03E45", "03E15", "03E05" ], "keywords": [ "large cardinals", "low level definability", "measurable cardinals", "minimal proper class mouse", "maximal independent families" ], "note": { "typesetting": "TeX", "pages": 22, "language": "en", "license": "arXiv", "status": "editable" } } }