{ "id": "2304.02504", "version": "v1", "published": "2023-04-05T15:24:18.000Z", "updated": "2023-04-05T15:24:18.000Z", "title": "Finite axiomatizability of the rank and the dimension of a pro-$π$ group", "authors": [ "Martina Conte", "Benjamin Klopsch" ], "comment": "15 pages", "categories": [ "math.GR", "math.LO" ], "abstract": "The Pr\\\"ufer rank $\\mathrm{rk}(G)$ of a profinite group $G$ is the supremum, across all open subgroups $H$ of $G$, of the minimal number of generators $\\mathrm{d}(H)$. It is known that, for any given prime $p$, a profinite group $G$ admits the structure of a $p$-adic analytic group if and only if $G$ is virtually a pro-$p$ group of finite rank. The dimension $\\dim G$ of a $p$-adic analytic profinite group $G$ is the analytic dimension of $G$ as a $p$-adic manifold; it is known that $\\dim G$ coincides with the rank $\\mathrm{rk}(U)$ of any uniformly powerful open pro-$p$ subgroup $U$ of $G$. Let $\\pi$ be a finite set of primes, let $r \\in \\mathbb{N}$ and let $\\mathbf{r} = (r_p)_{p \\in \\pi}, \\mathbf{d} = (d_p)_{p \\in \\pi}$ be tuples in $\\{0, 1, \\ldots,r\\}$. We show that there is a single sentence $\\sigma_{\\pi,r,\\mathbf{r},\\mathbf{d}}$ in the first-order language of groups such that for every pro-$\\pi$ group $G$ the following are equivalent: (i) $\\sigma_{\\pi,r,\\mathbf{r},\\mathbf{d}}$ holds true in the group $G$, that is, $G \\models \\sigma_{\\pi,r,\\mathbf{r},\\mathbf{d}}$; (ii) $G$ has rank $r$ and, for each $p \\in \\pi$, the Sylow pro-$p$ subgroups of $G$ have rank $r_p$ and dimension $d_p$. Loosely speaking, this shows that, for a pro-$\\pi$ group $G$ of bounded rank, the precise rank of $G$ as well as the ranks and dimensions of the Sylow subgroups of $G$ can be recognized by a single sentence in the first-order language of groups.", "revisions": [ { "version": "v1", "updated": "2023-04-05T15:24:18.000Z" } ], "analyses": { "subjects": [ "20E18", "03C98", "20A15", "20D15", "20D20", "22E20" ], "keywords": [ "finite axiomatizability", "first-order language", "single sentence", "adic analytic profinite group", "adic analytic group" ], "note": { "typesetting": "TeX", "pages": 15, "language": "en", "license": "arXiv", "status": "editable" } } }