{ "id": "2011.01273", "version": "v1", "published": "2020-11-02T19:31:28.000Z", "updated": "2020-11-02T19:31:28.000Z", "title": "The independence of GCH and a combinatorial principle related to Banach-Mazur games", "authors": [ "Will Brian", "Alan Dow", "Saharon Shelah" ], "categories": [ "math.LO" ], "abstract": "It was proved recently that Telg\\'arsky's conjecture, which concerns partial information strategies in the Banach-Mazur game, fails in models of $\\mathsf{GCH}+\\square$. The proof introduces a combinatorial principle that is shown to follow from $\\mathsf{GCH}+\\square$, namely: $\\triangledown$: Every separative poset $\\mathbb P$ with the $\\kappa$-cc contains a dense sub-poset $\\mathbb D$ such that $|\\{ q \\in \\mathbb D \\,:\\, p \\text{ extends } q \\}| < \\kappa$ for every $p \\in \\mathbb P$. We prove this principle is independent of $\\mathsf{GCH}$ and $\\mathsf{CH}$, in the sense that $\\triangledown$ does not imply $\\mathsf{CH}$, and $\\mathsf{GCH}$ does not imply $\\triangledown$ assuming the consistency of a huge cardinal. We also consider the more specific question of whether $\\triangledown$ holds with $\\mathbb P$ equal to the weight-$\\aleph_\\omega$ measure algebra. We prove, again assuming the consistency of a huge cardinal, that the answer to this question is independent of $\\mathsf{ZFC}+\\mathsf{GCH}$.", "revisions": [ { "version": "v1", "updated": "2020-11-02T19:31:28.000Z" } ], "analyses": { "keywords": [ "banach-mazur game", "combinatorial principle", "independence", "concerns partial information strategies", "huge cardinal" ], "note": { "typesetting": "TeX", "pages": 0, "language": "en", "license": "arXiv", "status": "editable" } } }