{ "id": "2009.03348", "version": "v1", "published": "2020-09-07T18:08:36.000Z", "updated": "2020-09-07T18:08:36.000Z", "title": "Strong downward Löwenheim-Skolem theorems for stationary logics, II -- reflection down to the continuum", "authors": [ "Sakaé Fuchino", "André Ottenbreit Maschio Rodrigues", "Hiroshi Sakai" ], "categories": [ "math.LO" ], "abstract": "Continuing the previous paper, we study the Strong Downward L\\\"owenheim-Skolem Theorems (SDLSs) of the stationary logic and their variations. It has been shown that the SDLS for the ordinary stationary logic with weak second-order parameters down to $<\\aleph_2$ is equivalent to the conjunction of CH and Cox's Diagonal Reflection Principle for internally clubness. We show that the SDLS for the stationary logic without weak second-order parameters down to $<2^{\\aleph_0}$ implies that the size of the continuum is $\\aleph_2$. In contrast, an internal interpretation of the stationary logic can satisfy the SDLS down to $<2^{\\aleph_0}$ under the continuum being of size $>\\aleph_2$. This SDLS is shown to be equivalent to an internal version of the Diagonal Reflection Principle down to an internally stationary set of size $<2^{\\aleph_0}$. We also consider a ${\\cal P}_\\kappa\\lambda$ version of the stationary logic and show that the SDLS for this logic in internal interpretation for reflection down to $<2^{\\aleph_0}$ is consistent under the assumption of the consistency of ZFC $+$ \"the existence of a supercompact cardinal\" and this SDLS implies that the continuum is (at least) weakly Mahlo. These three \"axioms\" in terms of SDLS are consequences of three instances of a strengthening of generic supercompactness which we call Laver-generic supercompactness. Existence of a Laver-generic supercompact cardinal in each of these three instances also fixes the cardinality of the continuum to be $\\aleph_1$ or $\\aleph_2$ or very large respectively. We also show that the existence of one of these generic large cardinals implies the \"$++$\" version of the corresponding forcing axiom.", "revisions": [ { "version": "v1", "updated": "2020-09-07T18:08:36.000Z" } ], "analyses": { "subjects": [ "03E35", "03E50", "03E55", "03E65" ], "keywords": [ "stationary logic", "strong downward löwenheim-skolem theorems", "weak second-order parameters", "generic large cardinals implies", "supercompact cardinal" ], "note": { "typesetting": "TeX", "pages": 0, "language": "en", "license": "arXiv", "status": "editable" } } }