{ "id": "0905.3913", "version": "v2", "published": "2009-05-24T17:23:39.000Z", "updated": "2010-12-06T18:53:35.000Z", "title": "More on the pressing down game", "authors": [ "Jakob Kellner", "Saharon Shelah" ], "journal": "Arch. Math. Logic 50 (2011), No. 3, 477--501", "doi": "10.1007/s00153-011-0227-x", "categories": [ "math.LO" ], "abstract": "We investigate the pressing down game and its relation to the Banach Mazur game. In particular we show: Consistently, there is a nowhere precipitous normal ideal $I$ on $\\aleph_2$ such that player nonempty wins the pressing down game of length $\\aleph_1$ on $I$ even if player empty starts.", "revisions": [ { "version": "v2", "updated": "2010-12-06T18:53:35.000Z" } ], "analyses": { "subjects": [ "03E35", "03E55" ], "keywords": [ "banach mazur game", "player nonempty wins", "player empty starts", "precipitous normal ideal" ], "tags": [ "journal article" ], "note": { "typesetting": "TeX", "pages": 0, "language": "en", "license": "arXiv", "status": "editable", "adsabs": "2009arXiv0905.3913K" } } }